Comments on: Rallying For Freedom http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/ Politics, humor, moonbat bashing, charter member of the vast right wing conspiracy. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:14:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20521 olbroad Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:18:03 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20521 <p>Yeah, I know, but it just doesn't sound right sometimes.  :)</p> Yeah, I know, but it just doesn’t sound right sometimes.  :)

]]> By: jimspice http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20505 jimspice Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:23:59 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20505 Sorry, just thought of an easier way to say it using centuries. The '1900s ended on 12/31/1999 but the 20th century continued to 12/31/2000. Sorry, just thought of an easier way to say it using centuries. The ’1900s ended on 12/31/1999 but the 20th century continued to 12/31/2000.

]]> By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20501 olbroad Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:53:27 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20501 <p>And there's the best reason I know not to take a quiz with your cell.  :D</p> <p>Yep, remember all that stuff from school.  And yes, I did manage to learn a few things while I was taking up space.  Frightening isn't it.  :P</p> And there’s the best reason I know not to take a quiz with your cell.  :D

Yep, remember all that stuff from school.  And yes, I did manage to learn a few things while I was taking up space.  Frightening isn’t it.  :P

]]> By: jimspice http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20498 jimspice Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:32:24 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20498 And MY apologies for not acknowledging your quiz results earlier. Been swamped.   The quiz told me I scored 11, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure out why I got the one wrong it told me I did. I ended up taking it again using the same answers and got a 12. I was using my iPhone, so my big fat sausages must have just poked the wrong dot the first time.   So here I am to solve the decade debate. The answer depends on how you state the question. There are three distinct ways of identifying a decade-- cardinal, ordinal and nominal. As the names suggest, cardinal numbers <strong>coordinate</strong> things, ordinal numbers <strong>order</strong> things, while nominal numbers <strong>name</strong> them.   A <em>cardinal</em> decade counts 10 consecutive years -- <em>any</em> 10 consecutive years. 1996 to 2005 is a cardinal decade.   There was no year zero, so the first <em>ordinal</em> decade went from 1 to 10. It follows that 2010 is in the 200th ordinal decade.   A <em>nominal</em> decade identifies 10 year spans that are similar in name. The '90s all have "ninety" in the name, the '80s eighty, and so forth down through the '20s. The teens all have teen in the name except the first three, but these could be thought of as zeroteen (interestingly, 10 is not the tenth number -- it's the 11th), oneteen and twoteen. Only the first ten numbers, 0-9 have no commonality. That's why we have such a problem pinning a nominal tag on the first decade of a century. I prefer the naughties. It should be noted that the first naughties consisted of only 9 years, since as mentioned above, there was no year 0.   The confusion arises from the fact that each nominal decade spans two ordinal ones. 2010, the first year of the teens, is in the 200th ordinal decade, while the other nine occupy the 201st.   There. Boom. Solved it.   And MY apologies for not acknowledging your quiz results earlier. Been swamped.
 
The quiz told me I scored 11, but for the life of me, I couldn’t figure out why I got the one wrong it told me I did. I ended up taking it again using the same answers and got a 12. I was using my iPhone, so my big fat sausages must have just poked the wrong dot the first time.
 
So here I am to solve the decade debate. The answer depends on how you state the question. There are three distinct ways of identifying a decade– cardinal, ordinal and nominal. As the names suggest, cardinal numbers coordinate things, ordinal numbers order things, while nominal numbers name them.
 
A cardinal decade counts 10 consecutive years — any 10 consecutive years. 1996 to 2005 is a cardinal decade.
 
There was no year zero, so the first ordinal decade went from 1 to 10. It follows that 2010 is in the 200th ordinal decade.
 
A nominal decade identifies 10 year spans that are similar in name. The ’90s all have “ninety” in the name, the ’80s eighty, and so forth down through the ’20s. The teens all have teen in the name except the first three, but these could be thought of as zeroteen (interestingly, 10 is not the tenth number — it’s the 11th), oneteen and twoteen. Only the first ten numbers, 0-9 have no commonality. That’s why we have such a problem pinning a nominal tag on the first decade of a century. I prefer the naughties. It should be noted that the first naughties consisted of only 9 years, since as mentioned above, there was no year 0.
 
The confusion arises from the fact that each nominal decade spans two ordinal ones. 2010, the first year of the teens, is in the 200th ordinal decade, while the other nine occupy the 201st.
 
There. Boom. Solved it.
 

]]> By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20490 olbroad Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:07:49 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20490 <p>No ma'am, ya didn't tick me off.  :)  That's REAL hard to do....well, most of the time.  Like I said previously, I do understand your point, and it makes sense to me.  Just some people count it different.  If that's what they want, so be it.  :D</p> <p>Apologies for not responding sooner.  Your comment got lost in the jumble of emails I've been trying to keep up with lately.  :?</p> No ma’am, ya didn’t tick me off.  :)   That’s REAL hard to do….well, most of the time.  Like I said previously, I do understand your point, and it makes sense to me.  Just some people count it different.  If that’s what they want, so be it.  :D

Apologies for not responding sooner.  Your comment got lost in the jumble of emails I’ve been trying to keep up with lately.  :?

]]> By: Axeanda45 http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20340 Axeanda45 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:22:05 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20340 Did you not point out that he was wrong about some things in his article? Was that not what <strong>your</strong> <strong>entire article was written for</strong>, to point out where he was wrong? Are you the only one allowed to point out other's mistakes? My  first post was intended to bolster your opinion/article, to show that yes, this guy has no clue. Forgive me for saying it in a way that you all obv. did not understand, I don't claim to be a writer, otherwise I would be linking to ya, lol   Now, to the counting aspect............ I am sorry, 0 = nothing, not  1. We do NOT count the first century as zero through 99, it is 1 through 100. That first year, as in your example, when was it complete? when you said zero? or was it actually.... when you said 1? Let me put it another way.... this zero year you pointed out, how long was it? Was it zero days long, or 365 days long? So, when did it count as a full year, when it started, or when it ended? When it ended, would it be called the 0th year or the 1st year? What does the "number" zero represent? Nothing, it is void, nothing. If you have 1 dollar, do you actually have 2?   Is that not how we count everything? We ALWAYS start with 1, never 0. <strong>Math is an absolute or it won't work, period</strong>. (and please, I am not trying to be a smarta** here, just trying to explain it so there will be no doubts) Look at it this way 1st yr, 2nd yr, 3rd yr, 4th yr, 5th yr, 6th yr, 7th yr, 8th yr , 9th yr, 10th yr 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30 and so on until.... 91st yr, 92nd yr, 93rd yr, 94th yr, 85th yr, 96th yr, 97th yr, 98th yr, 99th yr, and what would be the final year of the century? When would that final yr be complete? when would the century actually be over, the moment the 99th year ends, or the 100th? There is only one right way in things like counting, otherwise there would be chaos! As I said earlier, math MUST be  an absolute or it wont work, period. I hope I havent ticked you off here, it was not my intention at all, I just want you to be properly informed about this. I read your blog nearly every day  and enjoy it, we have almost the exact same principals, morals and beliefs (if your writing is a valid example of them). ( insert smiley here) Did you not point out that he was wrong about some things in his article? Was that not what your entire article was written for, to point out where he was wrong? Are you the only one allowed to point out other’s mistakes? My  first post was intended to bolster your opinion/article, to show that yes, this guy has no clue. Forgive me for saying it in a way that you all obv. did not understand, I don’t claim to be a writer, otherwise I would be linking to ya, lol
 
Now, to the counting aspect…………
I am sorry, 0 = nothing, not  1.
We do NOT count the first century as zero through 99, it is 1 through 100.
That first year, as in your example, when was it complete? when you said zero? or was it actually…. when you said 1? Let me put it another way…. this zero year you pointed out, how long was it? Was it zero days long, or 365 days long? So, when did it count as a full year, when it started, or when it ended? When it ended, would it be called the 0th year or the 1st year? What does the “number” zero represent? Nothing, it is void, nothing. If you have 1 dollar, do you actually have 2?   Is that not how we count everything? We ALWAYS start with 1, never 0.
Math is an absolute or it won’t work, period.
(and please, I am not trying to be a smarta** here, just trying to explain it so there will be no doubts)
Look at it this way
1st yr, 2nd yr, 3rd yr, 4th yr, 5th yr, 6th yr, 7th yr, 8th yr , 9th yr, 10th yr
11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20
21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30
and so on until….
91st yr, 92nd yr, 93rd yr, 94th yr, 85th yr, 96th yr, 97th yr, 98th yr, 99th yr, and what would be the final year of the century? When would that final yr be complete? when would the century actually be over, the moment the 99th year ends, or the 100th?
There is only one right way in things like counting, otherwise there would be chaos! As I said earlier, math MUST be  an absolute or it wont work, period.
I hope I havent ticked you off here, it was not my intention at all, I just want you to be properly informed about this. I read your blog nearly every day  and enjoy it, we have almost the exact same principals, morals and beliefs (if your writing is a valid example of them). ( insert smiley here)

]]> By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20335 olbroad Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:29:47 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20335 <p>So, if there was a typo in the first sentence, would you ignore the rest of the book?  Just curious.</p> <p>As for the zero, well, I don't condemn anyone's intelligence based on the place holder.  Do you consider January 1 1900 the first day year of the century, or the first day of the last year of the century.  I'm quite quite serious.  We count the 1st century A.D. as year zero through 99, correct?  That would make this the 21st century.  2000 started the new century.  It's really not worth quibbling about, IMHO, each person will see it as they will see it.  If the author wants to see 2010 as the beginning of the decade, that's his prerogative.</p> <p>Other than that, I understand what you are saying, I'm just curious how you see it.  :)</p> So, if there was a typo in the first sentence, would you ignore the rest of the book?  Just curious.

As for the zero, well, I don’t condemn anyone’s intelligence based on the place holder.  Do you consider January 1 1900 the first day year of the century, or the first day of the last year of the century.  I’m quite quite serious.  We count the 1st century A.D. as year zero through 99, correct?  That would make this the 21st century.  2000 started the new century.  It’s really not worth quibbling about, IMHO, each person will see it as they will see it.  If the author wants to see 2010 as the beginning of the decade, that’s his prerogative.

Other than that, I understand what you are saying, I’m just curious how you see it.  :)

]]> By: Axeanda45 http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20334 Axeanda45 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:20:42 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20334 Shadow, What has the idiot in chief got to do with this? Was he mentioned anywhere? I am nitpicking by pointing out an actual fact? wow, I guess you are only allowed to lie in or attack people in the comments here....... How does pointing out the author's (not Ol' Broad) hypocrisy not a valid point when HIS POINT was how UNEDUCATED those he was writing about are???????  Does showing he is an idiot not what Ol' Broad did too? So, now I'm the only one nitpicking? Since you are the one that claims 2000 was not one of the years of the 90's, PROVE IT! Count to 2000, when did you end? 1999? what would be the last digit? If you know what I am saying, then don't call me an ass. Shadow,
What has the idiot in chief got to do with this? Was he mentioned anywhere?
I am nitpicking by pointing out an actual fact? wow, I guess you are only allowed to lie in or attack people in the comments here…….
How does pointing out the author’s (not Ol’ Broad) hypocrisy not a valid point when HIS POINT was how UNEDUCATED those he was writing about are???????  Does showing he is an idiot not what Ol’ Broad did too? So, now I’m the only one nitpicking?
Since you are the one that claims 2000 was not one of the years of the 90′s, PROVE IT! Count to 2000, when did you end? 1999? what would be the last digit? If you know what I am saying, then don’t call me an ass.

]]> By: Axeanda45 http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20333 Axeanda45 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:08:05 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20333 I see that it is no use to point out actual facts to you  since you ignore them.(YES, the year 2000 IS THE LAST YEAR OF THE 90's, geesh, do <strong>you</strong> start counting to 10 at zero and end on 9? Is that how you would teach a young child child to count? "come on honey, let's count to ten..... Zero, One, Two..... ) , Yes O'l B, I was a little unclear in my first post, sorry, what I meant to say was, when I went to the linked article, he showed his ignorance/stupidity in the very first sentence, and then went about telling everyone how UN-Educated all those that attended Tea-Parties were. So, I couldn't read much more because he had already shown he had no clue what he was saying, so why read it? I see that it is no use to point out actual facts to you  since you ignore them.(YES, the year 2000 IS THE LAST YEAR OF THE 90′s, geesh, do you start counting to 10 at zero and end on 9? Is that how you would teach a young child child to count? “come on honey, let’s count to ten….. Zero, One, Two….. ) , Yes O’l B, I was a little unclear in my first post, sorry, what I meant to say was, when I went to the linked article, he showed his ignorance/stupidity in the very first sentence, and then went about telling everyone how UN-Educated all those that attended Tea-Parties were. So, I couldn’t read much more because he had already shown he had no clue what he was saying, so why read it?

]]> By: Shadowblitz70 http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20326 Shadowblitz70 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:07:47 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20326 Hey Axeanda... Barack Obama said hes been to 57 states in the US, and has 2 more to go. Are you going to call him out on that? Youre nitpicking, because you have nothing valid to input. And youre saying that the year 2000 was part of the "90's"? I know what youre saying, but you also know what THEY were saying. Dont be an ass. Hey Axeanda…
Barack Obama said hes been to 57 states in the US, and has 2 more to go.
Are you going to call him out on that?
Youre nitpicking, because you have nothing valid to input.

And youre saying that the year 2000 was part of the “90′s”?
I know what youre saying, but you also know what THEY were saying.
Dont be an ass.

]]> By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20309 olbroad Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:47:06 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20309 <p>Read your original comment, and you'll answer your own question.</p> Read your original comment, and you’ll answer your own question.

]]> By: Axeanda45 http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20307 Axeanda45 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:27:03 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20307 My point is, the author of the article you quoted on this post, who say's the Tea Party is filled with uneducated people cant even read a calendar, and no, you do  NOT  start counting at zero, what kind of answer is that? How did I waste your time by pointing out this so-called  "educated"  person's stupidity???? My point is, the author of the article you quoted on this post, who say’s the Tea Party is filled with uneducated people cant even read a calendar, and no, you do  NOT  start counting at zero, what kind of answer is that? How did I waste your time by pointing out this so-called  “educated”  person’s stupidity????

]]> By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20278 olbroad Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:56:12 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20278 <p>And your point?  FYI....all 12.... see new post....just for you.</p> And your point?  FYI….all 12…. see new post….just for you.

]]> By: jimspice http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20276 jimspice Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:31:39 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20276 Quick 12-question quiz to see how you stack up against the average bear.   <a href="http://pewresearch.org/sciencequiz/quiz/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://pewresearch.org/sciencequiz/quiz/index.php</a> Quick 12-question quiz to see how you stack up against the average bear.
 
http://pewresearch.org/sciencequiz/quiz/index.php

]]> By: olbroad http://olbroad.com/2010/01/10/rallying-for-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-20274 olbroad Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:52:12 +0000 http://olbroad.com/?p=27816#comment-20274 <p>@Axeanda  Then why did you waste my time, and yours?  I'm guessing it's whether or not you start the count from zero or one.</p> @Axeanda  Then why did you waste my time, and yours?  I’m guessing it’s whether or not you start the count from zero or one.

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