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We’ve Seen the Effect of “Amnesty” Before
Ed Meese – The Foundry
Experts can’t always predict exactly how public policy will affect the nation, despite our best efforts. But when it comes to immigration policy, we have tried many of the types of reforms advocated by today’s Gang of Eight—so we should consider the effects these reforms had in the past.
In the mid-’80s, many Members of Congress advocated amnesty for long-settled illegal immigrants. President Reagan considered it reasonable to adjust the status of what was then a relatively small population, and as his attorney general, I supported his decision.
The path to citizenship was not automatic. Immigrants had to pay application fees, learn to speak English, understand American civics, pass a medical exam, and register for military selective service. Those with convictions for a felony or three misdemeanors were ineligible.
This should sound familiar, as it’s quite close to the path and provisions set forth by the Gang of Eight.
Today they call it a “roadmap to citizenship.” Ronald Reagan called it “amnesty.” And he was right.
The 1986 reform did not solve our immigration problem—in fact, the population of illegal immigrants has nearly quadrupled since that “comprehensive” bill.
Why didn’t it work? Well, one reason is that everything else the 1986 bill promised—from border security to law enforcement—was to come later. It never did. Only amnesty prevailed, and that encouraged more illegal immigration.
Today, we have many of the same needs we did then. We need to work on better securing our border. We need to modernize our legal immigration system, including effective temporary worker programs. And we need strong enforcement of the laws we already have, including those that enforce immigration policies in the workplace.
The Gang of Eight is making promises now. “Border security” is a big promise. But their proposal spends money and grants amnesty without the guarantee that this promise will be kept.
We are having much the same debate and being offered much the same deal in exchange for promises largely dependent on the will of future Congresses and Presidents.
Instead, we should learn from our mistakes.
America welcomes more immigrants than any other country. As Ronald Reagan said:
In this free land a person can realize his dreams—going as far as talent and drive can carry him. In return America asks each of us to do our best, to work hard, to respect the law, to cherish human rights, and to strive for the common good. The immigrants who have so enriched America include people from every race, creed, and ethnic background. Yet all have been drawn here by shared values and a deep love of freedom. Most brought with them few material goods. But with their hearts and minds and toil they have contributed mightily to the building of this great Nation and endowed us with the riches of their achievements. Their spirit continues to nourish our own love of freedom and opportunity.
But in keeping open that door of opportunity, we also must uphold the rule of law and enhance a fair immigration process, as Reagan said, to “humanely regain control of our borders and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people: American citizenship.”
The U.S. Attorney General from 1985-1988, Edwin Meese III is Heritage’s Ronald Reagan Distinguished Fellow Emeritus.
They are criminals! Illegal invaders, totally disregarding our laws, not caring about the damage done to our economy. I won’t even bring up the many deaths attributed to them.
If a person wants to become an American, then they go through the proper channels. If they want to bring their third world country standards and ‘values, then so many sneak across the border, or overstay their visa, or however they manage to get here. I don’t believe all those who they are trying to give amnesty to want to be Americans. Some, maybe. But when you see these illegals protesting in our streets, carrying foreign flags, do you really think they want to BE Americans? No! They want the SPECIAL rights and privileges the government is trying to give them.
Congress never seems to read the bills they shove down our throats. They never understand the ramifications of all their feel good legislation. Is it any wonder that only 5% believe Congress represents the best and brightest of our country? We are already so far in debt, the thought of adding $6.3 TRILLION more to that debt is just insane!
Congress and the POTUS need to step back, and for ONCE, use the gray cells God gave them! I, for one, do not believe any of them represent the majority of LEGAL citizens.
New Heritage Study on the Cost of Amnesty
Amy Payne – The Foundry
The immigration debate is about to get a lot more concrete.
Lawmakers need to be honest about the cost of their proposed immigration plans—and a new study due out today from The Heritage Foundation calculates the cost to taxpayers of granting amnesty to unlawful immigrants.
I really hate repeating myself! But I will….those people up in D.C. are certifiably insane! What sane person would put their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren so far in debt, they may never see the light of day?
Well, that’s what we’ve got right now. Crazy people running this country into the ground, destroying what made her great, and ignoring their true purpose, which was NOT to run our lives, and turn this into a third world communist country!
It’s not just the Democrats, there are a lot of Republicans who have been up there so long, they have forgotten what the real world is like. They ALL must go! Let’s start with Harry Reid, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Nancy Pelosi, AND John Boehner! I’m not too sure we can afford to keep either Obama or Biden around either! Between these, and a few others, this is the worst so called leadership I have ever seen in my lifetime. Previous administrations have gone whole hog on stomping on the Constitution….Wilson and Roosevelt come to mind, but this one? Oh, it surely takes the cake!
5 Ways the Immigration Bill Is Like Obamacare
Amy Payne – The Foundry
Congress rammed Obamacare through without many Members even reading the bill. Now it’s applying that same frantic, complex, pie-in-the-sky legislating to immigration. The similarities are frightening.
1. Extreme Costs
The Government Accountability Office now projects that under the most realistic scenario, Obamacare will add $6.2 trillion to the primary deficit over the next 75 years. That’s a staggering figure, especially considering the fact that President Obama pledged in 2009, “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits—either now or in the future.”
The Gang of Eight’s immigration plan granting amnesty to those unlawfully in the U.S. will cost already burdened American taxpayers more than they can bear. When he last crunched the numbers during the 2007 amnesty debate, Heritage’s Robert Rector calculated that a general amnesty would cost some $2.5 trillion—after considering what legalized immigrants would likely pay in taxes and receive in government benefits and services. His updated research on the latest proposal, due out soon, is likely to find a higher price tag in 2013.
I expect this kind of nonsense from John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Chuckie Schumer, and the typical roll call of Dems. To say I am more than disappointed in Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake, ESPECIALLY Rubio, would be like me saying “I don’t like fish.” I really DON’T like fish, and anyone who knows me, knows I definitely do not like fish! (no, one has nothing to do with the other…just a statement of fact)
We, the Constitution supporters, put a lot of faith in Rubio. Many worked long hard hours to get him into the Senate. People around the country sent money they could ill afford to help in the effort. This is how the people are repaid? With more garbage? More taxes? Amnesty???? To reward criminals? How is this a positive move for ANYONE other than the criminals themselves, and the politicians?
We have laws on the books. You commit a crime, you pay the penalty. It’s not that complicated. Yet, these 8 weasels are throwing out those laws, putting more of a burden on the people who came to the country legally, in whichever century, and giving a free pass to those who believe themselves above the law. We have a border. There’s a reason why man created fences. Good fences make good neighbors. Our fences are broken, and our neighbors aren’t ‘good’. They’ve trashed our yards, killed our ‘family members’, and cost billions in tax dollars.
We were promised a fence. Then, we were promised a ‘virtual fence’. We spent an extremely large amount of money. They tell us “It didn’t work”. The solution is simple. Build a physical fence, a very tall, sturdy fence, with razor wire, electrify the fence, and if necessary, put gun turrets every 20 yards along that fence. If that doesn’t work, there are always land mines, moats filled with alligators, piranhas, or some similar nasty creatures. If the tribes along the border have a problem, two words….imminent domain. After all, Congress has used that for reasons OTHER than what it was created, why not use it for the purpose it was intended? And if the EPA has a problem, you tell ‘em to live down there, and deal with the criminals hauling drugs across our borders to poison our children. I can guaran-damn-tee, they’ll change their tune quicker than you can say jackalope!!
It’s a well know fact that government doesn’t “fix” anything. They create more problems with their “fixes”. They are worse than a child with a screw driver in a room full of expensive electronics!
Do they truly want to solve a very serious problem? If so, they can scrap that 844 page piece of crap, bring out one very clean sheet of paper, and start writing:
1. Build big fence.
2. Hire more border guards (uniforms Made in U.S.A., not Mexico).
3. Arm said guards to the teeth, with live ammo, not rubber bullets, or freakin’ bean bags.
4. “Shoot to kill” orders, if said criminals don’t turn their sorry asses around and go home.
5. All student and non immigrant visa recipients will wear tracking devices. If such person, or persons, overstay their visa, said device will emit an ear piercing screech, notifying all those around them, they are now illegal. If device is not removed within a certain period of time, while wearer is boarding a plane, etc., device will then explode, leaving the wearer quite maimed. Very few muslims will be allowed to enter the country, and those who get the privilege, will wear two.
6. No immigrant will receive any compensation from the American people. They will work, or go home.
7. No muslim, from ANY country, will be given ‘preferred status’. Saudis status to be revoked. Israelis will now be given such status.
8. Profiling will now be implemented. Grandmothers and small children will no longer be groped and humiliated.
9. All mosques and muslim schools will be closed, plowed under, and the earth salted.
10. The official language of the United States of America is English. No signs, ballots, official documents, etc., will be printed in any language but English. Learn the language, or go home.
There! I’ve gotten them started. See how easy that was? No pork projects added!
Top 5 Problems with the “Comprehensive” Immigration Bill
James Carafano – The Foundry
The good news is Congress cares about trying to fix our flawed immigration system and broken borders.
The bad news is they want to do it with a solution that looks a lot like Obamacare—the “Gang of Eight” 844-page-plus “comprehensive” bill.
The sad news is that such an “easy button” solution will not improve our immigration system.
History shows that big bills designed to solve everything wind up creating as many problems as they address. They become loaded with payoffs for special interests and often introduce measures that work at cross purposes.
The “comprehensive” bill fails at the start. Here are the top five reasons it cannot be fixed.
Here we go again. On April 10, thousands of illegal immigrants and their lobbyists will gather on the National Mall to support an immigration reform bill that the Senate is expected to introduce this month.
Every time Congress debates immigration, large crowds gather in various major cities nationwide. Through their sheer numbers, they hope to persuade legislators that they deserve to live legally in the United States.
Well, there ya go! All gathered together, so no need to send out anyone to round ‘em up! They’ll be right there, ready to load on the buses, and either sent to jail, to await their home countries to buy their plane ticket home, or taken back to the border.
NO! You do NOT deserve legal status. You broke into our country, ILLEGALLY, and expect people to pat you on the head? YOU are a FREAKIN’ CRIMINAL! PERIOD! If you break into my house, I shoot you. Why should you expect any better treatment when you break into OUR home, aka nation? You’re damn lucky I don’t live on the border. There might be a lot of coyote bait laying around.
How DARE YOU!!! You committed a crime! And expect to be rewarded? As with ALL criminals, you should get your JUST reward, and PAY for your crime! You ARE a criminal! We do NOT owe you DICK!!
…we need to ENFORCE the laws we already have on the books! Here’s an overview for ya. If Nappy would do her damn job, maybe McCain, and other members of the so called “gang of eight” wouldn’t have literally watched a woman climb over an 18ft fence to break into our country! Thankfully, the border patrol (dressed in uniforms made in Mexico) picked her up…..for all the good it will do!
It’s past time to remove the jurisdiction of the border from DHS (a Bush decision btw), and bring back the INS. These socialist political appointees are destroying the country. Not a ONE of ‘em has yet upheld their oath of office, and all should be removed. Instead, the Senate keeps confirming the basturds!
Side note: I have been trying for the last two hours to get the actual law of the land concerning immigration, illegals, etc., to load. For some reason, NONE of the sites I have attempted to load, and link, will come up. Interesting, eh?
So, on that note, I’m gonna just leave it at that before my frustration level (after only 45 minutes of sleep) gets any higher. ENFORCE the law, build the damn fence, and shoot any sons of bitches that tries to cross our borders illegally. They are criminals….PERIOD!!
FINALLY!! Here are just a FEW of the laws this administration is NOT enforcing because of that sieve we call a border! These criminals are bringing diseases we eradicated years ago, and yet……
What Immigration Reform Must Do
Immigration is a difficult issue—there’s no getting around that. How do we encourage and improve lawful immigration, while deterring unlawful immigration?
David Addington, head of Heritage’s Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies, takes on this question just as the Senate’s “Gang of Eight” nears a deal on a new bill. He writes:
The U.S. should reform its immigration system through a careful, step-by-step process that welcomes lawful immigrants, encourages their full participation in American life, and expands opportunity. The process also must prevent unlawful immigration, encourage respect for law, secure America’s borders, and preserve America’s sovereignty.
Heritage has described this step-by-step process for a problem-solving approach to immigration issues, such as reform of the lawful immigration system, visa reforms, lawful temporary worker arrangements, and strong border and interior enforcement.
Broad federal declarations usually don’t work, and a one-size-fits-all immigration policy is not the way to go.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano testified to Congress last month that the border “has never been stronger.” What she doesn’t say is that the department no longer measures illegal immigrants who get away — only those it catches.
“For two years, Secretary Napolitano has claimed our southern border is secure without having any metrics in place to make that determination,” Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, told Fox News on Monday. “Such statements demonstrate her lack of leadership and unwillingness to solve the problem.”
The Department of Homeland Security is about the most useless bureaucracy in the federal government. The homeland is NOT secure! We are being invaded on a daily basis, and that dumb broad flaps her gums, spouting lies about just how well her department works in keeping us safe. Pfft! Between DHS and the DoJ, the criminals are now running the show!
In response, the Department of Homeland Security argues staffing levels are at an all-time high, while Border Patrol apprehensions remain at historic lows, a downward trend it claims “reflect fewer individuals crossing the border.” Apprehensions are down 79 percent since 2000, and 50 percent since 2008.
I’ve no doubt the numbers are down because of the catch and release, or just don’t catch at all! Like I said….totally useless!
But those numbers alone mean little and one congressional aide called them a sticking point in immigration reform negotiations. “It’s like the juggler who tells you he can juggle three balls, but fails to tell you he dropped five. Apprehensions alone are meaningless. It could mean fewer people are crossing or you’re just missing a larger share of those who do cross. We don’t know.”
Apparently, it’s a requirement of anyone working for this administration to play fast and loose with numbers. Math obviously isn’t their strong suit.
Exactly what defines a “secure border” is critical as Republicans and Democrats inch closer to an immigration overhaul. Some lawmakers insist on border security first, as a pre-condition for any form of amnesty or legalization. The problem is, the Department of Homeland Security has no reliable or accepted metric to measure border security. That presents a problem for lawmakers who do not accept the administration’s claim the border is safe and secure.
Janet Napolitano is about the most incompetent person in this administration, and that’s saying something. The majority are incompetent, including the POTUS!
“There are areas of the border that have never been worse and never been more dangerous,” said Arizona rancher Dan Bell. “Every time someone mentions immigration reform we see a spike. We see more people coming through. And that is the case now.”
but yet, the claims that the border is secure keep being spewed!
“The canyons, the valleys, the mountains of Santa Cruz County, that is where the activity is now,” admits Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada. “The activity has shifted from urban to rural areas.”
But in his next statement referring to Nogales:
“In my 45 years in law enforcement I have never seen it more secure than it is now,” Estrada said.
Yeah…because there is a major presence of Border Patrol agents, and vehicles. However….
But outside of the city, ranchers and agents tell a different story. Smugglers are mobile. Their routes are fluid and change every hour, relative to border patrol units, cameras and towers.
Wouldn’t it be a good idea to increase the number of agents in the rural areas? And how about that fence? Add to it a few gun turrets…every 20 yards or so! The Constitution states quite plainly that it is the job of the federal government to keep the citizens safe. Wouldn’t it be nice if they had been doing their job? How many citizens would still be alive if they had?
We once were a nation of laws. Now? We’re nothing more than a nation left by the wayside on the whims of petty little men, and women, and their petty little minds, and their petty power grabs.
What is being put forth as “immigration reform” is nothing more than a political ploy, meant to increase a certain voter base. Even though, many of those who come here illegally are from Mexico, and central America, there are others who have managed to sneak in, quite easily, by way of our porous border to the south will ill intend for our nation and her citizens. No one seems to care!
I’m all for LEGAL immigration. We are a nation built of, and by, immigrants, and am proud of such heritage. But I am an American. I could hyphenate, like so many others do, but to what point? To separate me from my fellow citizens? Don’t we have enough separation as is, further promoted by this administration, AND Congress?
I’ve actually heard that we NEED these people who break the law and sneak into our country. Really? Why? To be a massive drain on what few resources we have left that SHOULD be spend on LEGAL residents and citizens? Where is the logic in that? They do the work Americans won’t do? Well, that fantasy was been put to rest by actual facts and statistics.
If such an “immigration reform bill” passes, it will do nothing more than open the flood gates, just as the similar type action did when Ronald Reagan was president. Then, we only had 3 million to contend with. Now? Well, they say the number is 11 million. It is probably a great deal higher. And if they know there are a certain number, then why is it that they haven’t been able to find them, and return them to their point of origin?
If our own government will not enforce the laws, already in place, meant to keep the citizens of this nation safe, then why the hell should I follow the law meant to keep other drivers safe by doing the posted speed limit. One is not the same as the other? Really? They are both laws that are on the books. If they don’t have to follow the law, then neither do I!
Heritage Statement on Immigration
The Heritage Foundation has released the following statement:
America’s heritage of immigration has fueled our nation’s strength and diversity, yet our immigration system has become so politicized and dysfunctional that it causes untold personal tragedies, strains the fiscal capacity of public services in many states, and prevents many from pursuing the American Dream. Complex, comprehensive legislation based on back-room deals never works, and the Senate immigration proposal announced this week and echoed yesterday by President Obama—to the extent that it repeats the mistakes of the past—will further polarize Americans, fail to solve the real policy problems, and make matters worse.
Two U.S. Border Patrol agents were shot, one fatally, Tuesday morning in an area in south Arizona known as a major drug-smuggling corridor, authorities said.
The identities of the agents were not immediately released, but the shooting occurred at the Brian Terry Station near Naco, Ariz., which is just south of Tucson. The station was named after an agent who was killed in the line of duty in December 2010. The area is considered a remote part of the state and sources tell Fox News that the shooting occurred at 1:50 a.m. local time and about 8 miles from the border.
The agents who were shot were on patrol with a third agent, who was not harmed, according to George McCubbin, president of the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing about 17,000 border patrol agents. The agents were on horseback at the time of the shooting.
It is time for the government to do their REAL job, and keep this country safe from the wild animals. It’s also way past time for them to take responsibility for the deaths of all Americans killed by the hands of the criminals they have allowed free reign. If it take putting moats and land mines in their KNOWN paths of entry, then that’s what needs to be done! Gun turrets would come in real handy as well. And shoot to kill! Enough with the pandering to a foreign government and it’s criminals!
My prayers go out to the families of those killed and injured. My heart breaks because the bunch in D.C. don’t take the American lives lost seriously. And I’m angry that they refuse, or are incapable of keeping us safe. The Border Patrol puts their lives on the line each time they go out, with no appreciation from their ‘boss’.
People who break into your home, are released on a regular basis. The REAL criminals are in D.C., at the very top of the food chain.
First, we start by throwing out those in power…charge them with a variety of crimes, which they HAVE committed. Then, we start rounding up all those who have made it a habit of breaking our laws by crossing the borders, breaking into our home, bringing in terrorists, etc. We shoot the child rapists, and clear out the drug smugglers from the prisons, give them an overdose of the poison they peddle, ship the rest back across the border, and shoot anyone who attempts to come back, without our permission!
Harsh? Yeah…maybe…but at this point, I don’t give a damn! If the government, who is charged by the Constitution of the United States to keep the homeland secure won’t do their job, then they need to be fired, charged with criminal neglect, and a new administration put into place that WILL uphold the laws of the land!
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Calling an illegal invading alien an ILLEGAL invading alien. They are not immigrants. An immigrant is someone who goes to a different country….LEGALLY! They follow the legal process. Those who do not, are ILLEGAL! It doesn’t matter where they come from, they are breaking the law. They are ILLEGAL! They are CRIMINALS! There is nothing ‘racist’ in calling a law breaker, illegal. Why do these Hispanics think it’s ALL about them? Yeah…maybe they are the majority who cross our borders ILLEGALLY, which means they are breaking the law, which means they are criminals. Why are LEGAL immigrants from south of the border fighting so hard to change reality? Are they really that ignorant? These left wing loons are aiding and abetting criminals, and should be charged accordingly. And, FYI….Hispanic is not a race, anymore than those from the Middle East are a race. Don’t they teach ANYTHING in school anymore? Or is all just the Communist Manifesto, An Inconvenient Truth, or as it should be accurately called, Inconvenient Lies, or some such other equally destructive work?
In case this….female…and her left wing loon cohorts are unacquainted with an English dictionary, I’ll give them a little assistance:
adjective – not according to or authorized by law, unlawful, illicit; also not sanctioned by official rules
adjective – against law: contravening a specific law, especially a criminal law; against rules: not allowed by the rules of something (such as a game); not permitted by computer: not permitted in a computer program
adjective – forbidden by law or statute; contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.
The Free Dictionary (Collins English Dictionary)
adjective – forbidden by law; unlawful; illicit; unauthorized or prohibited by a code of official or accepted rules
noun – a person who has entered or attempted to enter a country illegally
Well, I’m sure you get the picture.
ADDED: I just had to add this! Zo’s rant from 2 years ago. Hey….he did, why can’t I?
Don’t you people have something better to do? I dunno…like maybe YOUR JOB?
Isn’t the purpose of DHS to keep the homeland safe? Well, y’all are failing miserably. The border is NOT safer and we have criminals sneaking in on a regular basis. So, instead of snooping conservative bloggers, how ’bout y’all get up off your collective hind ends, and get the damn criminals OUT of the country, and stop the terrorists from invading! They really DO want to kill us y’know, and I’d be mighty grateful if y’all could put a stop to their entering through both the northern and southern borders! I have a great grandson on the way, and I’d really like to know he will be entering a safer nation. Of course, I know that isn’t going to happen. Why? Because y’all can’t be bothered to protect our borders. sigh….
Oh, and I’m quite aware y’all pop by at least once a month. Nothing has changed on this end. Any changes on your’s? Naw…didn’t think so. I sure will be glad when we finally get a REAL DHS after 1/20/13!
A Republican lawmaker wants higher bails set for illegal immigrants involved in serious injury or fatal crashes.
A bill proposed by state Rep. Joe Carr of Lascassas would lead to higher bail amounts for illegal immigrants in those situations by automatically treating them as a flight risk — making it harder to bond out before trial.
Carr said the bill follows his philosophy of tackling illegal immigration one issue at a time, something he says the state should do to “de-magnetize itself from the dependency illegals have on state services and the fact that they feel like they’re welcome here.”
“They’re not welcome in Tennessee,” he said.
I have a much better idea….how about NO BAIL at all! First they are in the country ILLEGALLY, which is the first law they broke. They are not ‘immigrants’, they are criminals. Second, they are driving on the streets, ILLEGALLY, since they are not allowed to have driver’s license because they are in the country ILLEGALLY. And third, being involved in vehicular crash with fatalities (also known as KILLING people) while driving without a legally obtained license, after sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, should carry the heaviest of all penalties. That’s 3 strikes right there!
How about let’s use a wee bit of common sense, and not offer criminal invaders ANY bail! I would suggest we enforce our own laws, and perhaps make them even stronger, as so many other countries do. The Mexican government has a strangle hold on their southern border, why don’t we? Other countries, like North Korea, or Afghanistan, just shoot the invaders. No fuss, no muss! I’m not saying we have to shoot anyone coming over our borders, but it is a sort of war, and we are being invaded. Just sayin’.